Community Suggestion: Add members to a family without creating articles for them

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Add members to a family without creating articles for them

New Feature Addition · Family trees · Created by Arlatius
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Currently in order to build a family tree within articles, one needs to create parent articles and link them to their children. I'm working on a large clan family tree, but only a few key members are important enough to need articles written about them. Given that a descendent feature has already been rejected, in order to include the important characters (who are seven generations into the clan) i would need to create at least one parent per generation until I reach the top of the tree. This causes a huge amount of article bloat, for characters who are no more than a name.   I propose the ability to write in a character name without creating a new article for said character, possibly something like in the current residence field in a character article where you can optionally link the content of the field to an article or leave it as plaintext.

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Thanks for the suggestion! This is a good idea and will come as part of a future relationships update.
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Current score

110/300 Votes · +25508 points

Votes Cast

  • +300

    by Snorfy Goom
    on 2024-06-18 21:56

  • +300

    by Gavionara
    on 2024-06-18 16:24

  • +100

    by Blossom Tree Art
    on 2024-06-18 09:27

  • +300

    by A Adorable Dragon
    on 2024-06-18 05:27

  • +300

    by Nathair Sionnach
    on 2024-06-18 02:13

  • +300

    by phre3d
    on 2024-06-17 19:38

  • +100

    by livs-h
    on 2024-06-17 18:40

  • +300

    by pezzman
    on 2024-06-16 17:12

  • +300

    by Teancumson
    on 2024-06-16 03:28
    I would love this option with all articles. I don't always want to write an article just to name a organizations leader in its article.

  • +300

    by webjr
    on 2024-06-15 16:35

  • +300

    by cedes
    on 2024-06-15 03:08

  • +1

    by Imryx
    on 2024-06-14 01:32

  • +100

    by LittleSister
    on 2024-06-13 11:36

  • +300

    by SrSpaceCadet
    on 2024-06-13 06:17

  • +300

    by A Wild Kitten
    on 2024-06-13 04:55

  • +300

    by morganarcher
    on 2024-06-13 01:48
    Please

  • +300

    by ZGstudio
    on 2024-06-13 00:18

  • +1

    by Buzzard
    on 2024-06-12 17:00

  • +300

    by Lucha Inc.
    on 2024-06-12 16:36

  • +300

    by oaster2000
    on 2024-06-12 15:55
    After having recently gotten rid of article bloat created from this. I completely back this feature.

  • +100

    by Jpjpjp
    on 2024-06-12 15:08

  • +100

    by Victoria Bley
    on 2024-06-11 21:07

  • +300

    by HunterChristmas1247
    on 2024-06-11 17:44
    Yeah, this should've done a long time ago!

  • +300

    by Robojomo
    on 2024-06-11 11:41

  • +300

    by deleyna
    on 2024-06-11 00:20

  • +300

    by Alyvins
    on 2024-06-10 21:01

  • +300

    by SnowKT
    on 2024-06-10 15:43

  • +100

    by AvalonArcana
    on 2024-06-10 13:47

  • +300

    by PrippyMontyPoppyCock
    on 2024-06-10 13:27

  • +100

    by WildBuzzard2353
    on 2024-06-10 11:22

  • +300

    by smwa6773
    on 2024-06-10 05:31

  • +300

    by spacetrash
    on 2024-06-09 20:25

  • +300

    by Dreadwish
    on 2024-06-09 19:46

  • +300

    by WitchyWoman128
    on 2024-06-09 17:19

  • +100

    by DowPhoenix
    on 2024-06-09 02:15
    I really like this idea

  • +100

    by EBelt
    on 2024-06-09 01:57

  • +1

    by Masha Medov
    on 2024-06-09 01:26

  • +100

    by Mme88
    on 2024-06-08 23:29

  • +100

    by LittleRaider
    on 2024-06-08 16:21
    I agree with this. Sometimes, there isn't enough info about a character to warrant a whole article

  • +100

    by Haleo
    on 2024-06-08 14:52

  • +300

    by Observer of the Stars
    on 2024-06-08 12:23

  • +300

    by Silviooooooo
    on 2024-06-08 10:31

  • +300

    by Writing Bishop
    on 2024-06-08 07:05

  • +1

    by DMFW
    on 2024-06-07 15:36

  • +300

    by SebGreg732
    on 2024-06-07 09:21

  • +300

    by NovaTerra
    on 2024-06-07 07:56

  • +100

    by Menatith
    on 2024-06-07 07:34

  • +300

    by Sodose
    on 2024-06-07 02:16
    yes pls

  • +100

    by FenixGraey
    on 2024-06-07 01:57

  • +300

    by [email protected]
    on 2024-06-06 20:47

  • +100

    by A Glamorous Velociraptor
    on 2024-06-06 19:05

  • +300

    by ArtisticArmoury
    on 2024-06-06 17:51
    I’ve been dying to flesh out the royal family tree, but I’m not quite ready to add over 50 articles just for highkings not really relevant to the current day.

  • +300

    by Ellysium
    on 2024-06-06 17:47

  • +300

    by TinkerTech
    on 2024-06-06 16:24
    Yes please! I've been putting off building out the grand genealogy of one of my older families because I don't have a good system to build the family tree with. And I'm not creating articles for every single member...yet.

  • +300

    by Callyxtus
    on 2024-06-06 16:11

  • +300

    by Blue Fairy 74
    on 2024-06-06 15:57
    After I had created a small family tree of just 4 generations, I no longer wanted to use the family tree tool, for exactly this reason. At the moment I switch to Maps, where I prepare the family tree beforehand using image editing, which takes ages. And I have tested org trees, but they also reach their limits with generations with several lines existing at the same time, because everything is stretched out. It would really be so helpful if family trees could be created without articles.

  • +100

    by Frod0_baggins
    on 2024-06-06 15:40

  • +100

    by Those2Nerds
    on 2024-06-06 15:16
    There are alternatives such as org trees or leaving the extraneous articles drafts, but it would be nice to not need workarounds.

  • +1

    by liviajelliot
    on 2024-06-06 13:50

  • +100

    by D3vilmade
    on 2024-06-06 01:45

  • +300

    by phork37
    on 2024-06-05 23:43

  • +1

    by fortresshowardwrite
    on 2024-06-05 17:55

  • +300

    by A Roaring Velociraptor
    on 2024-06-05 15:09

  • +300

    by RyleiDreemurr
    on 2024-06-05 14:29

  • +300

    by Nubs
    on 2024-06-05 05:07

  • +1

    by trossm
    on 2024-06-04 23:04

  • +300

    by Achilles Tiger
    on 2024-06-04 20:30

  • +300

    by Ricowitz
    on 2024-06-04 06:14

  • +300

    by twirlingfox
    on 2024-06-03 23:40

  • +300

    by A Revolutionary Hobbit
    on 2024-06-03 21:58

  • +100

    by A Cute Goblin
    on 2024-06-03 20:38

  • +100

    by Maz_Cat
    on 2024-06-03 14:41

  • +300

    by Goddess_Of_Luck
    on 2024-06-03 12:21

  • +300

    by DesNordlund
    on 2024-06-03 08:28

  • +300

    by A Filthy Ooze
    on 2024-06-03 08:23

  • +300

    by Shirmanto B
    on 2024-06-03 05:56

  • +100

    by A Revolutionary Devil
    on 2024-06-03 01:24

  • +300

    by FelixKitKat
    on 2024-06-02 23:56

  • +300

    by jester2b
    on 2024-06-02 21:50

  • +300

    by ss2020
    on 2024-06-02 21:46
    Yes, I have some lineages that go back a 100 years, and creating a full character is a waste of time. I would rather have a small image and their relevant dates.

  • +300

    by Kuba13805
    on 2024-06-02 14:53

  • +100

    by Marethus
    on 2024-06-02 11:20

  • +300

    by cow2face
    on 2024-06-02 11:18

  • +300

    by Akmedrah
    on 2024-06-02 07:23

  • +300

    by A Revolutionary Orc
    on 2024-06-02 05:10

  • +300

    by Bernana
    on 2024-06-02 02:50

  • +300

    by A Frightened Unicorn
    on 2024-06-01 18:22

  • +1

    by PoppaeaSabina
    on 2024-06-01 15:46
    Totally get if this cannot be implemented, and it seems unlikely to me that it will be, but I'm gonna toss a vote in because this WOULD legitimately be helpful.

  • +300

    by Grogonak
    on 2024-06-01 13:05

  • +1

    by Kaleidechse
    on 2024-06-01 09:55
    I have a similar problem with an imperial bloodline in my main world, and I'd love to have a more elegant way of handling this.   However, I don't see an easy solution because the character information would still need to be stored somewhere. Implementing a second character storage alongside the articles would probably cause more trouble than it's worth.

  • +300

    by Silver Wind Dragon
    on 2024-05-31 16:16

  • +300

    by Hack-N-Slash
    on 2024-05-31 14:23

  • -1

    by WeStanNikolai
    on 2024-05-31 13:13
    I feel you, and I have the same problem with too many essentially empty articles for "unimportant" family members, however I feel like this may not be possible to implement?

  • +300

    by sryxi
    on 2024-05-31 07:07

  • +300

    by Lightlaw
    on 2024-05-31 01:59

  • +300

    by Ormus_Erebus
    on 2024-05-30 21:09
    I think this could be technically done with just the sidebar of the important characters, and skipping generations that don't matter (ala top tier, then 4 tiers down being the great great great grandson of X), but I would also like this feature.

  • +100

    by World Smithy
    on 2024-05-30 14:32

  • +300

    by norselyqueer
    on 2024-05-30 13:34
    Yeah, I'm only just starting to expand on my noble houses and royal families and it's clear that this will very quickly become a problem.

  • +300

    by Gaëlle S.
    on 2024-05-30 12:15
    It'll probably be hard to implement but yes, please! I need this too.

  • +300

    by Jupiter Melichios
    on 2024-05-29 22:47
    I don't know how technically feasible this would be, but I'd absolutely love it as a feature if it was possible!

  • +300

    by JoellaKay
    on 2024-05-29 20:35

  • +300

    by Bonus Action
    on 2024-05-29 15:27

  • +300

    by Mochimanoban
    on 2024-05-29 13:28

  • +300

    by tjtrewin
    on 2024-05-29 13:26
    Yes please!!! I really enjoyed making a big family tree when the feature was released but now my world has a cluttered mess of character articles that I have no intention or need to expand upon.

  • +100

    by Amancham
    on 2024-05-29 09:49

  • +300

    by kaixabu
    on 2024-05-29 08:23

  • +300

    by Exarx
    on 2024-05-29 08:03

  • +300

    by Kameron M. Sovka
    on 2024-05-29 07:28

  • +300

    by SparkyTheSec0nd
    on 2024-05-29 05:20

  • +300

    by Ratha
    on 2024-05-29 05:14

  • +300

    by Arlatius
    on 2024-05-28 21:24
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